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The Green Business Chat — Today, May 2
| May 2 | 9:40 AM |
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| May 2 | 2:40 PM |
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| May 2 | 6:30 PM |
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| May 2 | 6:35 PM |
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| May 2 | 7:25 PM |
| Nick A. | has entered the room |
| Nick A. | hiya |
| Jeff M. | has entered the room |
| Jeff M. | Hey, Nick -- looks like you got here ok... |
| Nick A. | hiya! yeah, looks good |
| Nick A. | is there audio on this thing? |
| Jeff M. | Not that I'm aware of -- I think it's just the basic text chat... |
| Nick A. | righto |
| Jeff M. | I'm figuring a lot of that out myself -- Shea just gave me admin priviledges yesterday... |
| Nick A. | welcome aboard treehugger! |
| Nick A. | great to have you involved |
| May 2 | 7:30 PM |
| Jeff M. | Thanks! I was flattered by the invitation, and grateful to Mike and Graham for working with me on keeping sustainablog going... |
| Jeff M. | Mike's already got me on an assignment, and I was looking at various items for posting before I came here. |
| Nick A. | yeah,
definitely! Triple Pundit has been sorta lagging these days due to
School/Treehugger/other thigns... still havn't quite decided its fate. |
| Nick A. | Ah great! |
| Michael (. | has entered the room |
| Jeff M. | Yeah, TP looks like it's turned into a one-man show... |
| Michael (. | Hello gang! |
| Jeff M. | Hey, Michael... |
| Nick A. | pretty much... i just havn't had time to rally people |
| Nick A. | hi there! |
| Michael (. | Hey Jeff..nice to see you hosting this week! |
| Michael (. | Shea is still driving 55 somewhere... |
| Jeff M. | Thanks... I was glad to step in as Shea makes his cross-country trek... at 55 mph... |
| Michael (. | Hey Nick! |
| Jeff M. | Shea forwarded me email from the road -- guess he's trying to stay on top of things while making the drive... |
| Jeff M. | So, Nick, there's a tradition that's developed here... |
| Jeff M. | Bad pirate jokes before the actual chat gets going... |
| Jeff M. | And I mean bad... |
| Michael (. | Nice...can't believe he's getting Internet access along the way...I couldn't even get it at some of the major US airports |
| Michael (. | They're terrible. |
| Michael (. | :) |
| Jeff M. | If it works in "arrrr..." into the punchline, it's good enough for us... |
| Nick A. | arrrrrrrrr |
| Jeff M. | He was "borrowing" a wireless signal at a motel.... |
| May 2 | 7:35 PM |
| Jeff M. | Nick, are you writing a thesis? |
| Nick A. | sprint gave me a phone free for 6months tha you can attach to the laptop... works almost anywhere at DSL speed... amazing |
| Michael (. | Whats a pirates favorite school subject? |
| Nick A. | Sort of - it's calleda "capstone project"... more of a business plan than a thesis |
| Michael (. | arrrrithmitic |
| Michael (. | there, I've paid my dues |
| Jeff M. | Wow, that's bad... |
| Jeff M. | I didn't get a chance to look one up... So I can only think of mine from last week: What do you call pirate lovemaking? |
| Michael (. | Thank you. |
| Michael (. | what? |
| Nick A. | I'm doing a plan for some of TreeHugger's side projects - namely a store that's hopefully launching soon |
| Jeff M. | Buried pleasure |
| Jeff M. | I saw the email on the store -- looks pretty ambitious... |
| Nick A. | I'll tell you my favorite pirate joke if you want |
| Jeff M. | Please... |
| Michael (. | Interesting, Nick...eco-products and such? |
| Michael (. | yes, do |
| Nick A. | Pirate walks into a bar... the whole get up, parrot on his shoulder, and a peg leg... |
| Nick A. | only thing unusial is he's got a ship's wheel stuck to his belt at about crotch level (don't worry this is clean) |
| Nick A. | sits down, orders a beer or two... |
| Nick A. | conversation ensues... |
| Nick A. | finally
the bartender can't take it any more and askes ... "captain! I can't
help but notice, you've got a steering wheel on your crotch!"... |
| Nick A. | pirate replies - Aaarrrrrr.... Tis Drivin' me Nuts |
| Nick A. | (sorry) |
| Jeff M. | Oh, man... classic... we're likely killing lots of brain cells doing this |
| Michael (. | Oh. God. |
| May 2 | 7:40 PM |
| Michael (. | Well, my wife is laughing..in pain. |
| Jeff M. | I told my wife some of the jokes from last week, but all I got was dirty looks... |
| Jeff M. | Any of the other GG folks coming, Michael? |
| Michael (. | Hmmm...light crowd tonight... |
| Michael (. | I shouldn't have worn this dress.. |
| Nick A. | how long have you guys been doing this? |
| Jeff M. | What has it been, four, five weeks? |
| Jeff M. | I missed the first couple... |
| Nick A. | nice |
| Michael (. | Not
likely...Steve just got back from the Energy Conference in NYC..he's
beat...Chris is sick and Aaron is taking care of the new little one |
| Michael (. | About four weeks... |
| Nick A. | I should be able to get some of the PResidio students interested in this... |
| Jeff M. | that would be great... the more the merrier... |
| Michael (. | Nick, when did Treehugger start to come together? |
| Jeff M. | Why don't we give it a few more minutes, and we'll go ahead and start -- anyone coming in late can scroll back through... |
| Michael (. | Looks like Jeff and I are your attentive listeners... |
| Nick A. | ok |
| Michael (. | sounds good!@ |
| Nick A. | Treehugger started almost 2 years ago |
| Michael (. | Just finishing up watching Munich...great movie |
| Nick A. | launched in... hmm... i should check that |
| May 2 | 7:45 PM |
| Nick A. | about august 2004 |
| Nick A. | munich - heard that was good. I saw Al Gore's film last night |
| Nick A. | it's absolutely fantastic |
| Michael (. | ahh..how was it? |
| Jeff M. | Tell us more... but don't give away the ending ;-) |
| Michael (. | can't wait... |
| Nick A. | really
good... if you've seen him give his global warming talk, it's basically
the same thing, but with some more graphs and nifty graphics thrown in. |
| Nick A. | It's hard to belive that a film about Al Gore giving a slide show is worth watching, but it's really, really good |
| Michael (. | Any spectacular explosions? |
| Michael (. | ;) |
| Jeff M. | Or bare boobs? |
| May 2 | 7:50 PM |
| Jeff M. | BTW, I figure we're officially started... should anyone else show up, I'll give the introduction... |
| Nick A. | righto... |
| Jeff M. | Just sent an invitation to someone, so maybe we'll have another... |
| Jeff M. | Nick, you want to talk a little more about the store, since I know you're likely buried in that right now... |
| Nick A. | yeah sure... |
| Summer | has entered the room |
| Jeff M. | Hi, Summer... |
| Michael (. | Hello Summer! |
| Nick A. | so...
basically it starts simple, it's all affiliate based at least in the
begining, and it's as picky as possible about what we showcase |
| Nick A. | hi! |
| Jeff M. | Do you know our guest tonight, Nick Aster? |
| Summer | Hi All! |
| Summer | No, nice to meet you Nick :) |
| Nick A. | the
idea is quality over quantity, with plenty of editorial analysis, and
open to commenting from the public, and a simple rating system |
| Michael (. | be right back! |
| Nick A. | one sec... let me get the questions spec |
| Jeff M. | Nick's
co-founder of Treehugger, founder of Triple Pundit, and a student at
the Presdio School of Management's sustainable business MBA program... |
| Jeff M. | A soon to be graduated student in that program... |
| Nick A. | View paste
(6 more lines) |
| Nick A. | hmm dunno if that pasted properly |
| Jeff M. | Campfire does strange things sometimes... |
| May 2 | 7:55 PM |
| Nick A. | Would be nice to know if anything is missing from that! |
| Michael (. | very nice...similar is some ways to what Timberland is doing with their products.. |
| Michael (. | Are you guys getting slow refresh times? |
| Nick A. | then,
there will be some categorization = Books (this is a broad, separately
functioning bookstore), Fashion, Gadgets, Home Decor, Food,
Beauty/Cosmetics, Outdoors, Gifts, and Intangibles - such as Carbon
Certificates. |
| Jeff M. | I think it's all there... seven questions, right? |
| Nick A. | 10 actually... |
| Nick A. | hang on |
| Nick A. | 1) Details on every material contained in the product and how much of each are present |
| Nick A. | 2)
Manufacturing details – where it was produced, how it was produced, who
produced it, where are the materials that made it sourced from and at
what consequence? |
| Nick A. | 3) Labor issues – what the conditions under which this product is made? |
| Michael (. | Sounds really cool |
| Nick A. | 5)
Does the product contain materials that are in some way stimulating to
a market that would improve the planet’s ecological condition, such as
bamboo or Organic cotton, and how? |
| Nick A. | 4)
Transportation issues – how far does this product travel to get to the
consumer and under what conditions? How far are the materials that made
it sourced from and under what conditions? |
| Nick A. | 6) Does the product consume energy of any kind during its use? |
| Nick A. | 7) Is this product designed to last a long time or be disposable? |
| Nick A. | 8) How much waste is produced by the products manufacture? |
| Nick A. | 9)
If/when disposed of, what is the “afterlife” of the product meant to
be? Is it a true attempt at cradle to cradle? Has it been designed for
reuse, disassembly, nutrient return, or other biodegradable processes? |
| Nick A. | 10)
Does the product reduce the need for something else? Replace something
else in a more efficient manner? Make accomplishing some task easier
and more efficient? |
| Nick A. | that's the rough description |
| Jeff M. | Those last three were certainly necessary... |
| Jeff M. | thanks |
| Nick A. | plus, of course, TreeHugger asthetics - it's gotta be cool and nicely designed |
| Nick A. | it goes on and on... and i'm struggling with how to make it objective |
| Jeff M. | So are you finding plenty of products that fit your criteria? |
| Nick A. | well, anything can be analized along those means, and it's all a judgement call about where it fits... |
| Nick A. | I'm fond of the intangible products like Drive Neutral certificates, since they aren't products at all |
| Michael (. | How does the affiliate program factor in? |
| Nick A. | but we'll probably sell the solar backpack, even though it uses all sorts of virgin matrial |
| Michael (. | turned on guest access |
| Nick A. | well - everything is being sold on an affiliate basis. We're not handling any merchandise... at least not right away |
| Nick A. | unfortunately, this limits us to using products found on Amazon, and a few other programs |
| May 2 | 8:00 PM |
| Jeff M. | I've done some playing around with green affiliate programs -- they're few and far between... |
| Nick A. | hopefully that will change as the store establishes itself and we can work out some real relationships with merchants |
| Nick A. | yeah, who knows, maybe this evolves into one |
| Summer | Great questions. Is there a site up yet/when? |
| Michael (. | You might get raked for that...but as they say, knowledge denotes the end justifies the means |
| Nick A. | will be up soon! :-) |
| Nick A. | in a week, probably |
| Nick A. | you mean because of Amazon? |
| Michael (. | I really like the concept...it's needed. |
| Michael (. | Yea |
| Jeff M. | Do you plan to keep in completely online, or are there plans for a brick and mortar store... |
| Nick A. | nah, totally online... TreeHugger's not yet ready for that. Someday perhaps |
| Nick A. | The Brand is getting incredibly powerful so there's certainly a chance for that |
| Michael (. | On
Groovy, we had a disgruntled reader send a well-written argument
voicing displeasure over how most green blogs all link to Amazon for
books instead of more sustainble businesses...she aknowledged the money
making side, but thought we were selling out a little since Amazon has
little to show green-wise |
| Jeff M. | How has Treehugger itself worked out as a business? Not necessarily revenue figures, of course, but in a general sense...? |
| Nick A. | I
wish there were something better than amazon, but I don't think it's
all that bad, especially since anyone can set up a store on Amazon and
sell used books |
| Michael (. | Great question! |
| Jeff M. | Have you looked at Booksense? |
| Michael (. | True...it's the small bookstores that feel overwhelmed in the online world... |
| Nick A. | well, we're working on that! it will be an ad supported site for a while |
| Michael (. | I've heard of booksense..have yet to check it out... |
| Nick A. | oh cool - hadn't seem them |
| Nick A. | what are they all about? |
| Jeff M. | It's an online network of independent booksellers... |
| May 2 | 8:05 PM |
| Jeff M. | You can plug in your zip code and find locally-owned stores nearby... |
| Jeff M. | and they do have an affiliate program, though it's relatively new. |
| Nick A. | ah... but can you order online in one place? |
| Jeff M. | I _think_ so... |
| Nick A. | hmm... will check that out |
| Michael (. | Nice alternative |
| Jeff M. | Here's the URL: http://www.booksense.com/ |
| Nick A. | What
I really hope will happen is that we can establish some relationships
with the sellers of various things and work out specific deals with them |
| Nick A. | there will be a bookstore part too |
| Nick A. | so we'll launch with 10 or 20 hot picks to get people excited, then change things around |
| Nick A. | We're also doing a few experiements... have you seen the stuff bump? |
| Jeff M. | Explain... |
| Nick A. | |
| Michael (. | A
green online store that anyone with green products might be able to
participate in...very cool...rather digg (or hugg) like but with
products that speak their purpose. |
| Nick A. | I have yet to see this in person, but it's one of the products |
| Ryan W. | has entered the room |
| Michael (. | ah, yes, the bump. Hey, Nick, can Groovy do a video review of one of those things...would be fun |
| Michael (. | Hello Ryan! |
| Jeff M. | Hey, Ryan... Nick Aster is our guest tonight... |
| Ryan W. | hey, |
| Ryan W. | welcome nick |
| Nick A. | that
would be very cool - not sure how a hugg thing would work, since you'd
have to make sure anything submitted would be associated with the
affiliate scheme |
| May 2 | 8:10 PM |
| Nick A. | but there could be a channel on hugg for recommendations, or something like that |
| Nick A. | http://www.hugg.com - is our other side project - it's sort of a "Green digg" - if you know what digg is ;-) |
| Jeff M. | I'm taking a look... very cool! |
| Michael (. | true..there would need to be more of a background check on the product as well... |
| Michael (. | Love hugg |
| Summer | I like the stuff bump- very handy and a good design.... |
| Nick A. | still a bit buggy, but almost ready to launch |
| Jeff M. | I'm having a great time with Hugg... it will be a great resource for green bloggers... |
| Nick A. | great! |
| Nick A. | We need to get better "personal" pages so that you can sort your own huggs more easily |
| Nick A. | and create pages that you can return to |
| Jeff M. | Yeah, that second one especially would be a great addition... |
| Jeff M. | How's Treehugger TV taking off... finally watched one last night, and thought it was well done. |
| Ryan W. | it's very well done |
| Nick A. | so
the store will remain pretty basic place where we really hope we'll get
a lot of input from people, and be a bit of a destination for
discussion about products, manufacturing, recycling, etc... if it gets
really popular, then it'll turn out to be a pretty useful place for
merchants and manufacturers to get ideas, as well as educating
purchasers |
| May 2 | 8:15 PM |
| Nick A. | THTV
- yeah, it's going great. We just hired a friend of mine to take it on
for 2 months and see what we can do with it... hopefully some longer
pieces, maybe more of a vlog type thing with a regular host... |
| Nick A. | there are 100 ideas |
| Nick A. | it's an obvious palce to go, with all the video development out ther right now |
| Jeff M. | You ought to get Ryan to do voice-overs... he's got a very sexy voice... ;-) |
| Ryan W. | thanks jeff |
| Nick A. | haha... so... you may see it getting distrubuted a few more places |
| Nick A. | we're hoping it gets a place on something more visible |
| Jeff M. | Any talks with Current TV? |
| Ryan W. | like current et al?\ |
| Ryan W. | you beat me again |
| Nick A. | Yeah a bunch. We were on there a couple months ago |
| Jeff M. | sorry... |
| Michael (. | like butter |
| Nick A. | Simran,
my friend who's spearheading it, was with MTV before this, so she's got
all kinds of connections. May not be on MTV, but many possibilities |
| Ryan W. | are you actively looking for user generated submissions for THTV? |
| Ryan W. | quality pending of course |
| Nick A. | not yet... but there will likely be a Hugg channel for video where you can submit anything |
| Nick A. | in fact, if it's on YouTube or Google, you can submit video to hugg now |
| Michael (. | Groovy would love something like that! |
| Nick A. | since hugg has a filter for what gets on the front page, it should work pretty well |
| Nick A. | the current TV thing is pretty cool - http://www.current.tv/google/GC01187 |
| May 2 | 8:20 PM |
| Jeff M. | Did you see Michael's solar recharger video... he's on his way up... |
| Ryan W. | i
have watched a few pieces on hugg, I wanted to show one of my classes
the south park smug episode today but the school filter wouldn't allow
it |
| Nick A. | it's too funny |
| Michael (. | hahaha..Ted Stevens will have my ass before all is said and done |
| Nick A. | what's the solar recharge video? |
| Summer | Darn school filters |
| Nick A. | so... those are the 4 main things going on - THTV, Store, Hugg, and the main site |
| Michael (. | |
| Michael (. | link to vid |
| Jeff M. | Michael's out to push Ted Stevens over the edge... |
| Michael (. | busy guy...I was wondering...how do you like the sustainable MBA program? |
| Nick A. | ah... are you guys producing those videors? |
| Nick A. | ah yes, actually I did see this |
| Michael (. | He's mine |
| Michael (. | that's us |
| Nick A. | had forgotten |
| Nick A. | sweet |
| Jeff M. | I thought I'd seen it on TH, but I'm guessing even you miss a thing or two... |
| Michael (. | we're moving along the video track at the moment..enjoying it. |
| Ryan W. | what did you shoot it with? |
| Nick A. | yeah,
so I'm thinking a hugg video channel might work quite well on the side
of the regular hugg site, and people will be able to showcase this
stuff any time they want |
| Michael (. | Shooting the largest wind farm east of the Mississippi next Tuesday..looking forward to it |
| Michael (. | I used a Sony DCR-VX2100..mindv..edited with Final Cut Pro and Motion |
| Summer | Very cool Michael... |
| Nick A. | yeah, looks great! |
| Jeff M. | The bandwidth salesmen must smile when they see you guys coming... |
| Nick A. | hosted on youtube - no bandwidth worries |
| Michael (. | Thanks, Summer, I'm enjoying it. Thanks, Nick |
| May 2 | 8:25 PM |
| Nick A. | so - love to hear any feedback if anyone has thoughts about TH.store ... |
| Michael (. | hahaha...the company took the video and placed it in their press release and on their front page (http://www.solarstyle.com |
| Summer | Ha! My husband has sarted composing to film... let me know if you guys need music. |
| Michael (. | Their investors must have a strong sense of humor |
| Nick A. | or knows anyone with something especially green to showcase on it |
| Michael (. | Thanks!! |
| Michael (. | especially green...hmmm... |
| Jeff M. | What
do you think of Cafe Press? I know they're all over the place, and are
doing organic cotton... I've also heard their stuff is crap... is that
right? |
| Ryan W. | limited organic |
| Summer | We should talk more later Nick, I have an online green store... let me know how I can help ya. summer@btcelements.com |
| Michael (. | I've had positive reviews of some of the stuff I've sold in the past... |
| Nick A. | cafe press is ok... it's a good place to go when you don't have any other infrastructure, we use them for tshirts now |
| Michael (. | Summer..we're still on for that interview! |
| Nick A. | they do have a certain organic componetnt |
| Ryan W. | i was going to buy a treehugger t to see what the what the quality was like |
| Nick A. | summer, thanks! |
| Ryan W. | american apparel? |
| Michael (. | Nick, check out http://www.btcelements.com...Summer has developed a great product line from around the globe |
| Nick A. | yeah
- one of the challenges is that there are a ton of great green stores
out there - we would love to showcase their stuff, but they need to
have an affiliate program, and let us link directly to a particular
product, rather than the store in general - otherwise people get lost. |
| Jeff M. | Is
American Apparel particularly green? I know they're good to their
employees... which is really important... but I don't how much they're
doing in terms of green business practics... |
| Michael (. | whoops...http://www.btcelements.com |
| Nick A. | yeah, great stuff.. checking it out |
| Ryan W. | social is one part of sustainable |
| May 2 | 8:30 PM |
| Jeff M. | Oh, certainly... in fact, the one part that often needs more attention... |
| Ryan W. | aa also has indicated a wish to increase organic use in all clothes |
| Nick A. | most definitely... |
| Ryan W. | but I think they may be growing a little quick |
| Ryan W. | to make it happen right now |
| Jeff M. | And then there's the weird 70s porn fetish of the CEO... what's up with that? |
| Summer | Ha Ha! |
| Nick A. | yeah the CEO is apparantly quite notorious |
| Ryan W. | he is an interesting character, there is video of him at the aa site |
| Michael (. | ha |
| Jeff M. | I've heard he particularly enjoys masterbating for reporters... |
| Ryan W. | ????? |
| Summer | What! |
| Jeff M. | Yep... I'll see if I can find it... |
| Nick A. | that's hilarious |
| Michael (. | yea? |
| Summer | Pee Wee Herman stylee.. |
| Michael (. | I volunteer Jeff to test this theory... |
| Jeff M. | No way, dude... he's way too hairy... |
| Nick A. | brb |
| Michael (. | Hahaha |
| Jeff M. | check out the pictures... http://www.inc.com/magazine/20050901/ameri… |
| Michael (. | Summer, have you given any thought to starting up a green business blog of your own? |
| Michael (. | Wow. |
| Michael (. | Interesting guy. |
| Michael (. | And yes, hiary |
| Michael (. | or hairy |
| Summer | I have. But haven't started it up yet. |
| May 2 | 8:35 PM |
| Summer | ...and probably won't for a month or so. I'll keep you posted :) |
| Steve (. | has entered the room |
| Michael (. | Great! |
| Michael (. | Hey Steve! |
| Steve (. | evening folks! |
| Nick A. | it's useful, and easily intergrated into your site if you want it to be |
| Shea G. | has entered the room |
| Steve (. | Can't stay long, but thought I'd stop by for a few min |
| Nick A. | hi! |
| Shea G. | The power of free public wifi at a rest stop |
| Steve (. | hey shea? on the road? |
| Shea G. | howdy everyone |
| Ryan W. | where are you shea? |
| Summer | Hi Shea and Steve! |
| Shea G. | :) |
| Shea G. | Iowa, just got into Iowa |
| Shea G. | And was happy to see free wifi at the official welcome center, so I'm done for the night |
| Shea G. | good timing, don't let me interupt |
| Shea G. | :) |
| Michael (. | I can't believe you found Wifi in Iowa |
| Jeff M. | We've had a great conversation -- everything from Treehugger's new store to Dov Charney's masturbation habit... |
| Summer | We were just talking about hairy CEOs... |
| Shea G. | I know. Crazy world |
| Michael (. | It's all come together |
| Shea G. | Wow, that's quite a range of topics :) |
| Jeff M. | There's a whole string of posts on him at Gawker: http://www.gawker.com/news/dov-charney/ |
| Jeff M. | Yep, we go where the conversation takes us... |
| May 2 | 8:40 PM |
| Jeff M. | Do you know Nick...? |
| Shea G. | Thanks for being Jeff's super duper special guest Nick |
| Michael (. | Nick..if you don't mind sharing your email address..I'd love to hear your thoughts on the sustainable MBA program.. |
| Michael (. | and send you some free Viagra |
| Ryan W. | which MBA program? |
| Jeff M. | Any talks of Presidio doing online courses? |
| Jeff M. | The Presidio School of Management Green MBA program... Nick's about to graduate. |
| Nick A. | yeah definitely - nick@treehugger |
| Nick A. | yeah sure - http://www.presidiomba.org ... online courses unlikely, though a portion of the content is indeed online. |
| Shea G. | Nick, when are you guuys going to post about Hugg? |
| Nick A. | we meet monthly for a 4 day intensive, then in small groups, online, and indivividually for the rest of the month |
| Jeff M. | Being the professional student I am, I keep thinking "Hmmm... how about a green MBA...?" |
| Nick A. | Hugg is almost done... |
| Jeff M. | But nothing remotely like that here... |
| Shea G. | I love it |
| Nick A. | There are a few nagging bugs, and I want it to be as easy to understand as possible before it goes "public" |
| Shea G. | Good plan |
| Michael (. | Hugg is Linton's favorite stomping ground |
| Michael (. | Is he a TH member? |
| Nick A. | the
added challenge is that the green community is (gross generalization
here) not as hyper about technology as the people who frequent Digg...
so many are likley to be scared off if they don't immediately
understand it |
| Jeff M. | Yeah, that's pretty clear... he's all over it... |
| Nick A. | yeah, Lacelles loves hugg |
| Ryan W. | i saw the post for a pligg speacialist, many people out there with the skills or are you fighting through it on your own? |
| Steve (. | I
would like a feature to sort by most huggs... Even the ones that get
6-7 hugs drop off the front page with many posts (Linton) |
| Shea G. | Nick, you passed me on the Most Hugged list! |
| Nick A. | I'm
doing it, but I'm sort of burned out on it right now. Got to finish
school, then worry about it. So we'd love someone who's really hot on
the technology to do a few more custom things |
| Shea G. | I have some Hugging to do |
| Shea G. | ;) |
| Nick A. | haha |
| May 2 | 8:45 PM |
| Shea G. | 522 to 499 |
| Shea G. | I'm coming after you! |
| Shea G. | ;) |
| Nick A. | Feel free to pass it around, i'm curious to hear people's impressions of it |
| Ryan W. | where do you find the time..... |
| Ryan W. | i've quit my job |
| Nick A. | it's finished enough to talk about, but just not perfect enough for a major launch |
| Ryan W. | I mean't i've got to |
| Michael (. | So far, it's one of the best resources for fresh green news |
| Nick A. | yeah, I'm pretty swamped! |
| Nick A. | yeah, lacelles is amazing |
| Nick A. | it's almost better than Treehugger lately |
| Michael (. | Congrats Ryan! |
| Michael (. | I think... |
| Nick A. | who knows, maybe this format replaces it someday |
| Nick A. | it's a really interesting thing |
| Ryan W. | actually I was right the first time but my contracts not done! |
| Michael (. | could be..an entire site maintained by Huggers...passive content like no other... |
| Nick A. | yeah |
| Nick A. | but it's not really passive, it's highly interactive |
| Steve (. | but you don't need to pay writers to keep it going |
| Nick A. | yep! |
| Nick A. | so maybe people get paid to do more in depth things |
| Jeff M. | Hey, don't give him ideas about not paying writers...! ;-) |
| Nick A. | or something |
| Nick A. | haha |
| Shea G. | Wow,
I'm fading. I'm a lot more tired than I thought getting off the rest
stop. I have to eat some food and sleep. Good night everyone, it was a
little crazy to stop in- mmmmm.... wired world... |
| Shea G. | ;) |
| Nick A. | cheers shea |
| Jeff M. | Thanks for coming by, Shea... |
| Ryan W. | you can never replace the analysis of good writers, they won't disappear |
| Steve (. | safe journeys |
| Summer | Later Shea.... |
| Shea G. | Thanks again Jeff and Nick and everyone else who rolled out. See you all next week |
| Ryan W. | later shae |
| Jeff M. | Nighty-night... |
| Michael (. | be safge |
| Michael (. | safe |
| May 2 | 8:50 PM |
| Shea G. | Sorry, forgot one thing.... |
| Nick A. | do you guys thik Hugg is clearly understandable? especially from a first-time non heavy internet user standpoint? |
| Shea G. | Start writing about Manbearpig. I am getting 400% my normal traffic from people searching Google for Manbearpig |
| Shea G. | lol |
| Shea G. | seriously |
| Nick A. | haha |
| Shea G. | and with that... |
| Shea G. | |
| Michael (. | Manbearpig is truly the one massive problem facing humanity... |
| Ryan W. | I am heavy internet user so sorry but from someone who appreciates user interface I think it's pretty clear |
| Jeff M. | So,
Nick, we're getting close to the end... any final deep thoughts? Will
green business become the norm? Will Treehugger take over the world...?
You know, things like that... |
| Jeff M. | Or, more on the TH store... that's good, too... |
| Nick A. | haha.. ok well, yeah, we'll all take over the world and make it a lot better ... |
| Ryan W. | nick give me an email and I send you some thoughts |
| Ryan W. | about TH interface |
| Ryan W. | i mean hugg interface! |
| Ryan W. | it's getting late east coast |
| Nick A. | seriously
though, once people can the idea that there is a sacrifice to be made
between business and environment, things will get a lot better |
| Nick A. | sure! |
| Nick A. | |
| Nick A. | ie - being pro-environment = pro-business, it's not a conflict |
| Jeff M. | Exactly...
Do you think we need the politicians for that? They seem to be the main
ones still pushing the conflict between the two... |
| Jeff M. | Is that clear... getting late in the midwest, too... |
| May 2 | 8:55 PM |
| Steve (. | nick,
you have the power to boost up your green writing counter parts too.
Increased exposure for all, helps promote the pro-environment lifestyle. |
| Nick A. | partly
yeah ... whoever's in power makes a hughe difference, but succesul,
outspoken business leaders will make a big difference too |
| Ryan W. | the answer lies in the masses, there is still alot that can be done to get consumers to help with the push |
| Nick A. | yeah, definitely |
| Steve (. | I think that consumers are getting savvier as well. |
| Summer | Hopefullly we are turning the tides- green is becoming good for business... |
| Jeff M. | The TH Green Blog Love of the Week has been great... A TH link is pure gold... |
| Ryan W. | I agree with Michael(see above) the more of us popular the better |
| Jeff M. | I get more from those then I got from the SF Chronicle story... |
| Nick A. | yeah - Al Gore gave a Q&A after the movie last night that really made me feel like we're at the edge of a big awakening... |
| Ryan W. | yeah, thanks for the green blog love |
| Nick A. | the challenge is to convince people to move from denial to action, not to despiar |
| Nick A. | despair, I mean |
| Ryan W. | i am really glad for the hanging chad in some respects |
| Ryan W. | gore has had a lot of time to crusade |
| Ryan W. | i love it |
| Nick A. | someone
asked him about that last night - she said - y'know Mr Gore, in a way,
I'm glad you are able to speak so openly now, do you think there's
silver lining to the 200 election? |
| Jeff M. | Of course, he's got lots more to crusade about, too... grrrr... |
| Michael (. | We
might live in a better world had he been President...but, then again,
perhaps he wouldn't of had this time to reflect and organize these
topics |
| Nick A. | And
he said basically, that's a nice way to put it, but make no bones about
it, the presidency is vastly more influencial than pretty much anything
else |
| Michael (. | bearmanpig |
| Nick A. | he then begain to sob |
| Nick A. | (jokingly)_ |
| Steve (. | well there is always 2008 |
| Jeff M. | He didn't masturbate for the reporters, did he? |
| Nick A. | only once |
| Michael (. | hahaha |
| Nick A. | but the reporters egged him on |
| Michael (. | What, no Hillary in 2008, Steve? |
| Michael (. | lol |
| Ryan W. | sorry
this took a second....We need to convince the masses of the wonder drug
which RSS based news. With the ability to fill thier lives with a super
healthy does of the good (the bright green future). A personally
selected media diet for a while can be an encouraging thing |
| May 2 | 9:00 PM |
| Nick A. | indeed |
| Nick A. | well guys, I gotta run too |
| Jeff M. | Hmmm... can we take on the right-wing media machine that way...? |
| Nick A. | dinner time |
| Jeff M. | Thanks so much for joining us, Nick -- it's been a great time... |
| Ryan W. | cheers Nick |
| Michael (. | Thank you Nick |
| Steve (. | take care. |
| Jeff M. | Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Nick Aster! |
| Steve (. | thanks |
| Summer | Thanks Nick. |
| Nick A. | yeah, thanks a lot!!! let's do it again |
| Ryan W. | every tuesday! |
| Nick A. | talk to you all soon! |
| Michael (. | woo hoo! |
| Summer | Goodnight gents. |
| Steve (. | [sounds of clapping] |
| Michael (. | Good luck!! |
| Jeff M. | I've got to go write a post for TH now... thanks again! |
| Steve (. | quit your braggin! |
| Jeff M. | Good night everyone... thanks for coming... |
| Michael (. | Goodnight Miss Summer! |
| Steve (. | heh heh |
| Ryan W. | good night! |
| Jeff M. | Whoops... wasn't trying to brag... not much, anyway...;-) |
| Ryan W. | [sounds of clapping] |
| Steve (. | congrats and goodnight! |
| Michael (. | Another $15 in his pocket |
| Jeff M. | thanks... see everyone next week... |
| Ryan W. | g'night jeff |
| Ryan W. | who's left? |
| Michael (. | Who is on tap for next week? |
| Summer | has left the room |
| Ryan W. | let's look outside the box a little ... |
| Ryan W. | anyone know a psyhcologist for example? |
| Michael (. | Can we get aL? |
| Ryan W. | did I spell that right? |
| Michael (. | :) |
| May 2 | 9:05 PM |
| Michael (. | or a business analyst? |
| Ryan W. | let's learn a little about how are readers thinK ? |
| Michael (. | almost... |
| Ryan W. | aL? |
| Ryan W. | agreed |
| Ryan W. | that's two weeks... |
| Michael (. | Sorry, Al Gore |
| Ryan W. | all we have to do is find them |
| Ryan W. | let's each send him an email |
| Michael (. | haha |
| Michael (. | agreed... |
| Ryan W. | I'll get his address |
| Michael (. | I say its worth a try |
| Michael (. | yea? |
| Michael (. | is it out there? |
| Michael (. | connections? |
| Ryan W. | no contact info at climatecrisis.net |
| Michael (. | I wonder why this page won't refresh faster for me? |
| Michael (. | I'll take a look as well... |
| Ryan W. | open climatecrisis.net and just listen to it in the background without images |
| Michael (. | View paste
|
| Ryan W. | I write a post looking for al gores email address, someone in his crew must watch for him on technorati |
| May 2 | 9:10 PM |
| Ryan W. | pen climatecrisis.net and just listen to it in the background without images ----jsut got a chill, had to turn it off! |
| Michael (. | hahah..with that music, I feel like I should be saving the world or something... |
| Michael (. | q |
| Ryan W. | i've got a track for you on that topic... hold on |
| Michael (. | q |
| Michael (. | cool |
| Ryan W. | still looking? does anyone have any other contacts business etc we talked about above? |
| Michael (. | q |
| Michael (. | good
question...might be worth thinking about a little...I have contacts in
the bio-chemistry arena..but I don't think they would be of much good
here..I do have access to several individuals at Cornell University
that might be interesting to talk with..most of them are people
involved in VC funding, trend-spotting, etc. |
| Ryan W. | trendspotting might be interesting |
| Michael (. | q |
| Ryan W. | either of you use linkedin? |
| May 2 | 9:15 PM |
| Michael (. | indeed |
| Michael (. | what's that? |
| Ryan W. | hold on I get the link |
| Michael (. | q |
| Ryan W. | |
| Michael (. | q |
| Ryan W. | is this a q (i don't get it?) |
| Michael (. | sorry, I have to hit a button to see new messages...strange chat |
| Ryan W. | really? |
| Michael (. | Is Linkedin a better system than, say, Friendster? |
| Ryan W. | linked in is similar I think |
| Ryan W. | haven't used friendster |
| Michael (. | yea,
something strange...I'm on a Mac at the moment running Firefox...not
sure if that has something |